Now more than ever, “eternal vigilance is the price of liberty.” These are the terms of warfare today, as organized world Jewry, through ADL and also the Democratic party, is in a final offensive to end free speech and, with it, all opposition to its worldwide control. It is throwing all its weapons against traditional Christian civilization: filthy movies and TV, promotion of homosexuality and pornography, attack on the symbols, values, and beliefs of Christianity, encouragement of unrestrained immigration, and, not least, exhaustion of America in Mideast wars that benefit only Israel. More boldly than ever, Jewish activists introduce incredibly perverse and restrictive legislative attacks on freedom. Their goal is world control - soon.
RELIGIOUS REICH WHINGERS
64 Comments to 'RELIGIOUS REICH WHINGERS'
Subscribe to comments with RSS
:: Trackbacks/Pingbacks ::
Tristan and Teddy boy sittin’ in a tree…k..i..s..s..
Seriously, didn’t Mister Emmanuel slobber over American boot toes about all this last week?
It’s nice to see that deep, *deep* integration of our two countries coming together in noble manly men who couldn’t be more on the same page (or at the bottom of one).
Will we get lucky enough that they will endorse Harper and the CPOC plans from their pulpits?
It’s too bad that it is people like the Reverend Ted Pike who are chosen as the voices raised against the near-total levels of Jewish influence and control over our way of life here in the west. It lessens the impact of the truths they state. That can’t be coincidence. Afterall, who chooses who gets heard? Who chooses to publicize these extremists at the fringes of the Christian, or for that matter, the Muslim spectrum? When was the last time you read something outrageous spoken or written by a Jewish religious leader in our media? It never happens. But the Ted Pikes of the world get heard from repeatedly.
I’ve said it before – I believe all religion is delusion – there is no god to lead the lonely, the confused, the delusional, the fearful and the self-interested to enlightenment. And these kinds of religious leaders, whether they be Christians, Muslims, or Jews should not be given a place at the head table in discussions as life-impacting as this one - discussions with ramifications so serious for all of us. This isn’t a religious issue – this is a societal one.
Just for a minute, forget who is saying this and pay attention to what’s being said.
The fact is, stripped of its religious delusions and prejudices, everything Pike has brought up is the unvarnished truth. If you doubt me, there are scholarly works that state the facts plainly – works so well researched that they are immune to the usual knee-jerk accusations of anti-Semitism. One of them is “The Culture of Critique” by Kevin MacDonald, http://www.csulb.edu/~kmacd/books.htm I recommend that anyone who instinctively wants to hurl epithets like Jew-Hater, Anti-Semite or self-hating Jew at those who state the truth about this issue read The Culture of Critique before doing so. Hurling insults from behind a wall of ignorance won’t help in the discussion or in a search for solutions. And let me tell you – we desperately need solutions. A firestorm of bitter resentment is raising its ugly, ugly head again. I see similarities with earlier waves of anti-Jewish sentiment as this phenomena gains traction with more and more members of our society who are being left out in our headlong rush towards societal group suicide and financial meltdown that can only benefit the richest amongst us while destroying the very things that made our Western, Christianized, yet progressive society a productive, creative and moral bastion in a world then filled with darkness.
If you think I’m overstating or overly dramatizing my case, you’re not paying attention.
The phrase, “going to hell in a handbasket” isn’t just rhetoric – it’s happening. And who is responsible?
Look around you. Who’s in charge? Who controls the levers of political power – not at the top, but just below, and further down in the back room bowels of the parties? Who controls access to your passions? Who controls the financial ebbs and flows? Who controls your access to information through the media? Who controls the highest levels of formal education through control of its administration and private funding? Who manipulates the labour movement? Who is responsible for the erosion of our basic rights and freedoms – rights and freedoms brought down to us from it’s early and primitive beginnings in the English “Rule of Common Law”? Look at this list of names and personalities behind the revolting and depraved Republican administration under the nominal leadership of George. W. Bush:
http://www.biblebelievers.org.au/bushlist.htm
(I wish I knew of a Canadian list. Anyone?)
None of these concerns of mine are new. In the 19th century, these issues were being raised all over Europe as Jews consolidated their stranglehold on the levers of power, culture and finance.
So it’s okay for a Jew to bring this up but its verboten to allow a Christian to say these things? Has the world gone mad?
I’ve been having this very same conversation with a good friend for months now. Ironically, in his latest email missive, (this morning), he stated in this excerpt:
Ain’t it the truth?
So what’s to become of our once proud, progressive, democratic societies? What’s to become of those who wish to rule us? What’s to become of us all?
I wish I knew. But it doesn’t look good for any of us if we continue to ignore the destructive forces running amok, dividing us, herding us like cattle, and browbeating those of us unwilling to accept the status quo with slurs like anti-Semite for pointing out the truths others adamantly refuse to recognize.
I see all kinds of examples of progressives angry with the intransigence and block-headed refusal to face facts of whingers when dealing with allegiances to right wing political movements like our Canadian Conservative party, right here on My Blahg. What happens to your common good sense when the subject becomes concern with the inordinate control Jews exert over every aspect of your life? Like my friend said, “A deeper intellectual analysis that brings that infrastructure to light may simply be beyond the intellectual ken of most…”
And that scares the bejaysus out of me because that refusal to face facts is going to eventually lead to mountain high levels of resentment leading to pogroms the like of which we’ve never seen. How can I claim such a preposterous thing? I can claim such a preposterous thing because I study history. Without a jaundiced eye or a fear of retribution.
Incidentally, you do no one a service when you act as just another shill for the “party” line, Robert, when you introduce a subject as serious as this one by using a cartoon version of religious fundamentalism to mock some extremely topical and worrisome trends in our greater society. These issues need to be discussed by everyone, openly and without fumbling over whether or not we’re “anti-Semitic”. (MY gd, I hate that phrase, leading as it does to the immediate cessation of all intelligent discourse!)
Tell me – is there anyone prepared to discuss this issue creatively and constructively or is it going to be more of the same brain-dead non-responses in lieu of good sense?
I await the deluge…of ignorance, cowardly silence and belligerent, up-is-down racism, while I earnestly and honestly hope for enlightenment…
I would suggest the owner of this blog purge that last comment. or is he willing to see his blog sullied by such racist crap.
If you can make a case, torontosteve, based on facts and logical reasoning that Art’s comment is racist then I’d be willing to consider it. But I’m afraid your mere pronouncement is going to fall on deaf ears.
Are you thick or what, the whole passage is your typical diatribe about the Jews controlling everything.
I quote this
” None of these concerns of mine are new. In the 19th century, these issues were being raised all over Europe as Jews consolidated their stranglehold on the levers of power, culture and finance.”
before that he had written about who hold power over the media, the government”
again
“who controls your access to information through the media? Who controls the highest levels of formal education through control of its administration and private funding? Who manipulates the labour movement? Who is responsible for the erosion of our basic rights and freedoms – rights and freedoms brought down to us from it’s early and primitive beginnings in the English “Rule of Common Law”? Look at this list of names and personalities behind the revolting and depraved Republican administration under the nominal leadership of George. W. Bush:”
This is pure Nazi propanda that would not have been out of place in the Germany of the 1930’s,
I cannot believe you Robert McClelland tolerate this.
Are you thick or what, the whole passage is your typical diatribe about the Jews controlling everything…
This is pure Nazi propanda that would not have been out of place in the Germany of the 1930’s,
Do you really think this passes for a factual, reasoned argument?
I don’t know, Torontosteve. Did you get as exercised when RightGirl posted “Islam must be be stopped!” at the The Western Standard? From what I’ve seen, you seem to think anti-Muslim is perfectly OK.
I don’t believe blogs are the appropriate venue for having these discussion at all, and I’m miffed that Arthur decided to trot out his favourite obsession when the topic only addressed the crass intolerance of the truly bigotted.
I see this discussion going nowhere. When shlemazl shows up, that’ll clinch it.
I assume then that Robert McClelland is on record as supporting the comments of Arthur Deco and refusing to refute them.
Thank you.
I’m miffed that Arthur decided to trot out his favourite obsession
Art falls into the same trap that the right whingers do when they shriek about liberal media bias. Their argument is pretty much, “Aha! I have found an example of liberal bias in the media therefore the media is liberally biased.” Art’s reasoning is, “Aha! I have found an example of Jewish influence in our society therefore our society is unduly influenced by Jews.” But that’s just shoddy reasoning, not anti-semitism like torontosteve is shrieking.
When shlemazl shows up, that’ll clinch it.
Yup, when Smeagol shows up this thread will officially be done.
Yes Ti-Guy I hate anti-Muslim hate speech as well, what has that got to do with the comments here by Arthur Deco.
I cannot comment on every blog, but I notice this sort of anti-Jewish stuff increasing on the leftwing blogging community.
And if there was anti-Islamic posts here, I doubt if McClelland would post without comment.
Thank you
Wrong McClelland , the Nazi’s had shoddy reasoning as well by your assertions. gee.
Nice to know where you stand’
Again I doubt if McClelland would accuse someone with anti-Muslim views as having shoddy reasoning, if someone came on here to say all Muslims are terrorists
whould that be shoddy reasoing????, yet Deco is using the same line with the Jews
Get real McClelland.
I cannot comment on every blog, but I notice this sort of anti-Jewish stuff increasing on the leftwing blogging community.
*yawn* Point out the times you’ve commented on anti-Muslim “stuff* and then we’ll talk.
You’re le mec who fawned and gushed over that virulent anti-Muslim Nav Purewal, are you not?
but I notice this sort of anti-Jewish stuff increasing on the leftwing blogging community.
Once again since you seem to be somewhat slow in the learning department. Your pronouncements of what is or isn’t racist or anti-Jewish are meaningless. Becoming increasingly shrill is not a substitute for a rational argument. So either put one up or bugger off.
I love being told to bugger off from racists, thanks McClelland.
Robert McClelland said:” Art falls into the same trap that the right whingers do when they shriek about liberal media bias. Their argument is pretty much, “Aha! I have found an example of liberal bias in the media therefore the media is liberally biased.” Art’s reasoning is, “Aha! I have found an example of Jewish influence in our society therefore our society is unduly influenced by Jews.” But that’s just shoddy reasoning, not anti-Semitism like torontosteve is shrieking.”
Let’s let time decide which of us is displaying shoddy reasoning, Robert. (And, please, stop attributing thoughts to me that I didn’t think, and explanations of them that weren’t required. You’re not doing such a great job at translating my motivations to your angry audience.) (& I don’t shriek, btw. Never. lol)
Do you have anything substantive to add to the discussion, torontosteve, besides wounded indignation, or is that all you’re prepared to offer us? Oh… I almost forgot about your gratuitous attempt to label me anti-Semitic and/or a Nazi, of course…
Did you carefully read my post or did your limited attention span, restricted cognitive skills and your defensive attitude render most of it gibberish and gobbledygook?
torontosteve, why don’t you re-read my post but this time read it calmly, as I wrote it with an undercurrent of concern for the Jewish Diaspora rather than the distaste for it you’ve unfairly attributed to me. My point was simple. No society ever allows an insular, self-contained community that refuses to fully integrate into the mainstream to control all of the levers of power indefinitely. History has taught us that. It always causes bad feelings and rivers of resentment. Jumping up and down and equating my post with Nazi hate speech isn’t helpful. It won’t change the likely outcome if things continue on as they are. Pogroms have been happening for millennia. What makes you think today is any different than yesterday? Or that the reasons behind pogroms change? One last question: Do you actually think that those responsible for creating this chaos that’s coming are going to pay? Not on your life. You and me – we’ll pay. And our friends and our families. Leaders get fat and sleek while citizens pay for it with their blood and money.
Isn’t one of the prime indicators of insanity doing the same thing over and over again expecting a different result?
Let’s fix this. Not fight about whether the problem exists.
torontosteve,
Remember this?
Eerie. It’s like he was reading your blog postings when he wrote this. Impossible, of course.
Uh…Robert, anyone who quotes from the Jewish Tribal Review is suspect, to put it mildly. Just check out the site. Here’s a nauseating sample from it, and please feel free to mung the source after you’ve read it:
http://www.jewishtribalreview.org/thisweek02.htm
And Kevin MacDonald? Yikes! (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kevin_B._MacDonald)
This is the real deal. Don’t embarrass us in front of the “the Left is anti-Semitic” wingnuts by not seeing what’s right in front of you. I’m with torontosteve on this one. This is pure, unadulterated anti-Semitism.
Well,
If anyone out there is undecided regarding the wackos read this
Indiana man charged with fraud after he tried to cash $50,000 check from God
I’m with torontosteve on this one.
I might have been too if he’d bothered to put up a rational argument like you did. But since he only saw fit to screech about it and become even more shrill when his pronouncements from on high were ignored it made it rather difficult to take him seriously.
Are you paying attention, torontosteve?
Art: You seriously need to get a grip. As Dr. Dawg points out your references are crap. I saw that on the very first one you linked to. They fucking reference VDare. VDare has been identified as a racist organization and anyone who reads political blogs should know that because it’s constantly brought up that Michelle Malkin has ties to this racist group.
Uh…Robert, anyone who quotes from the Jewish Tribal Review is suspect, to put it mildly.
Yeah, well, Dr. Let Marc Collins dominate the discussion at your blog.,…
Oh, wait. He already does…
Huh?
Whaa?
Dr. Dawg, I find you too accomodating to your adversaries. I get the impression that your raison d’être is rooted in an enemy you love to have.
You’re an exceptional thinker. You are undoubtably a genius. But you are not wise. Not all ideas are worth discussing.
Love, Ti-Guy.
Well, while some waste their time ranting pro and anti-jewish comments, the real threat is bilking the masses, creating another cult of brainless sheep, and raking in the money while laughing all the way to the bank. Oh, and they pay no taxes because they are a ‘religious organization’!
The Prayer Palace
Dr. Dawg & Robert.
The Spencer quote appears to apply to the two of you too…That’s dissappointing.
Robert, you actually consider Dr. Dawg’s post a rational argument? What argument? What rationality?
Where I get the material I reference is immaterial. Are you disputing the provenance or truthfulness of the information I quoted? No. Did I quote the information you want to associate me with? No. Did I express the sentiments stated in the links you supplied to buttress your arguments that I’m anti-Semitic? No. You’re using the fact that Michelle Malkin is published on the same site as Kevin MacDonald as a reason to ignore his unassailable research and academic credentials? (The Globe and Mail regularly publishes columns by Paul Wolfowitz and Richard Perle, two of the architects of the illegal invasion of Iraq, who under international law are technically war criminals. Should we ignore everything published in the Globe too?) Have either of you read MacDonald’s work? Have you read, “The Culture of Critique”? Or are you both reflexively responding without reflection and without informing yourself of the facts? You both, along with torontosteve have simply confirmed my conviction that no one would deal honestly and openly with the facts I presented, instead preferring to respond with emotion and chronic displays of either unintentional ignorance or intentional bifurcation.
The millisecond you can convince me of the wrongness of my opinions with a factual rebuttal to what I have written rather than with these “guilt-by-association” flights of fancy you both insist are rational responses to my positions, I’ll be there with you.
But as long as you continue to do exactly what I forecasted you would, you’re not going to convince me of anything.
Dr. Dawg, Ti-Guy has expressed the opinion that you’re a genius. So far, I’ve seen no evidence of it on this thread. I worship at the alter of genius. Show me some.
My genial qualities have nothing to do with this discussion.
Kevin MacDonald has about as much credibility as the anonymous author of the Protocols of the Learned Elders of Zion. His “group selection” stuff is bad science, if not outright quackery.
There’s an interesting, fairly non-emotive, discussion of MacDonald here.
In the meantime, if the only places you can find to buttress your point of view are hate sites, then I have to wonder about the foundation of your arguments. After all, you are really presenting the arguments of others, so your sources are fair game for discussion.
My genial qualities have nothing to do with this discussion.
Oh, yes they do. They always do. Geniuses can’t help that.
…believe me, I know.
What utter bollocks this statement is! Let’s talk about which side of our plates the forks should be on then – is that a safer subject for you Ti-Guy?
I planned on ignoring this single-shot drive-by by Ti, but upon re-reading the whole thread (to reconfirm for myself that I had said what I said and not what the unskilled readers offended by what they thought I said, claimed I said), I decided I had to say something in rebuttal.
Fact: Robert publishes statements about undue Jewish influence attributed to a fundamentalist preacher.
Fact: I question the raison d’etre for widely publishing his speech/sermon while agreeing fundamentally with the bare-bones facts included in his rant.
Fact: I implore those posting here to offer up solutions to the fact that because Jews are significantly over-represented in the corridors of power, finance, the administration of our culture and our media, that historical resentments are bound to build up threatening the continued prosperity and goodwill of the Jewish Diaspora. Just as has happened repeatedly for millennia, and as was confirmed in my quotation from W. D. Rubinstein, in his seminal work, Jewish Journal of Sociology, which, while quoted on the web site of Tribal Revue, was certainly not published by them, and could never be accused of being an anti-Semitic tract!
Fact: I ended with a plea for a constructive discussion on the merits, or not, of my positions. And then this: “I await the deluge…of ignorance, cowardly silence and belligerent, up-is-down racism, while I earnestly and honestly hope for enlightenment…
I’m still hoping for enlightenment but I don’t expect I’ll see much of it based on the dearth of ideas expressed so far in this asinine conversation where its seems to be okay to slag “truly bigoted” Christian funnymentalists as long as you don’t try to shine a light on the actions and the unspoken ambitions of Jews – the very thing he was talking about.
No wonder there’s so many heads exploding around here.
From the Jewish web site tht Dr. Dawg linked to to support his contention that MacDonald’s work is ant-Semitic:
Now if you could just answer my question Dr. D…. Have you read MacDonald’s books? And if not - what gives you the right to categorize his work as anti-Semitic? Oh…You say so on the say so of someone else’s say so?
I’m still waiting for some evidence of that genius, Ti-Guy referred to…. Plenty of evidence of bait and switch and dissembling…
Would that be the sources of my sources, Dawg, or the sources themselves? You seem to prefer to discuss where I got the information rather than the information itself, none of which in my opinion, you have managed to dispute.
From Dr. Dawg’s link to a Jewish web site that he used to convice us of MacDonald’s anti-Semitism:
I separate, myself, the difference between the Zionists and Jews.
There are three sects of Judaism Orthodox, Conservative, and Reformed. They do not agree on many things. The Orthodox have been the primary driving force behind establishing a Zionist State in Israel, although, many of the Conservatives have also.
It will never be settled by those they consider ‘outsiders’, and based on the wildarsed rantings of the neo-con Christian Evangelicals, I give no hope for this world coming together in peace and understanding because ignorance and hate are too much fun for most to bother learning anything about the beliefs of others.
Interestingly, Judah has not existed for milllenia, and Israel never had the legitimate Priesthood, but broke away from Judah over taxation. Two separate nations, both claiming to have the ‘right’ of being ‘The Chosen of God’!
Both sides, as well as the hard line Muslims all know they have the ‘only truth’ because ‘God said it, they believe it, and that settles it!’ Same goes for Hindu hardliners.
When people seek God with an open heart and a critically thinking, yet open mind, then they find a thing called spirituality!
Funny thing, how God makes God’s own choices regardless of mankind’s arrogance.
Otherwise they just have religion, which is derived from the Latin root ‘religio’ which means to bind! Some might recall the promise was freedom? Freedom comes from understanding, respect, maturity, and being willing to ’see and hear’ the most Holy of God’s attributes…Truth! Know what you believe and why you believe it!
You really have to take that quotation in context, Art. The attempt was to have a non-emotive discussion of MacDonald’s work, and the statement I quoted was tone-setting. The two go on to conclude that MacDonald is way over the top.
Here he is on Holocaust-denier David Irving, on whose behalf he testified.
My main concern with MacDonald (and my acquaintance with his work is from his website and elsewhere–I have not read The Culture of Critique) is his essentializing of the notion of “the Jew” or “the Jews.” He’s got Jewishness down, in fact, to genetic code, although the specific genetic sequences have yet to be revealed. I don’t like sociobiology–I think it’s bunk–and MacDonald is yet another reason to flush it.
All this talk about MacDonald alleged ant-Semitism and you haven’t even read his books! Of course you realize everything else in you post other than this salient sentence is hyperbole, don’t you? (Hyperbole = Bullshit, to those with 200 word vocabularies)
Read the damned book first & then get back to me about anti-Semitism, you disingenuous ass.
As far as your claim that you “quoted” the phrase I transposed from the site you referred us to in your ongoing attempts to smear MacDonald as an anti-Semite - you did no such thing. So not only are you a proven dissembler and “bait and switcher”, you’re also a liar.
I’m done with you.
(What is it about guys like you, Dr. Dawg, so seemingly intelligent and informed on a wide variety of subjects, that forces you into rabid, brain-dead attack mode the moment Jews are mentioned as a critical subject of discussion by anyone not Jewish? Grow up, already.)
What utter bollocks this statement is!
Yeah, well…I get the impression you get up every day and curse Winter. You’re a bitch, Arthur.
This is not the appropriate forum for your bête noire. Half the douche-bags who read this blog have never even heard of Hannah Arendt.
I may be a bitch, Ti, but I love Winter. I love Springtime, Summer and Fall.
Nothing encourages an appreciation of the natural order of things more than almost dying. It hones your senses to a sharpness I didn’t think possible..
You’re a very honest person, Arthur, that’s why I like you. I like Dazzlin Dino and some of the other Righties for that same reason.
Judaism is inherently racist. You just have look at how Jews handles conversion (they don’t like it). That fact alone makes Judaism an affront to God.
But, I’m not a Jew and I really don’t care. When the State starts rounding up my Jewish neighbours, I’ll speak up.
When the State starts rounding up my Jewish neighbours, I’ll speak up.
Not me. People like Klownsella, Chernyuk and Smeagol the Jew have taught me it’s not worth getting involved. When next they come for the Jews I doubt I’ll even be able to muster up a “what a shame”.
You already know my views on gd, Ti. And if you care about your “State” at all, you should start “speaking up” now.
(As an aside)… Why do we always insist on waiting, as a state, government or society), until things are too screwed up to repair before we decide to intercede to avert all-encompassing disaster? Seems illogical. Even criminal.
Who benefits?
When next they come for the Jews I doubt I’ll even be able to muster up a “what a shame”.
That’s despicable Robert. I can’t believe you’d say something like that.
I’m starting to get the feeling that I’ve been had by Mr. “Fuck The Jews.”
Why do we always insist on waiting, as a state, government or society), until things are too screwed up to repair before we decide to intercede to avert all-encompassing disaster?
Hey, you have other choices. Go for it.
My parents shook off the yoke of confessionalism and took the Ontario government to court to fight for French-language education (now a Charter right).
I don’t know what revolution you’re likely to take on (persecution of the irretrievaly crabby?), but…you go, girl!
Wow. I seem to have struck a nerve.
First, it was of course Art, not I, who quoted the phrase from a discussion that I had referenced. That doesn’t make me a liar, or at least much of one, given that this thread is open for anyone to read, and whoever quoted the statement doesn’t really matter. It was, in any case, a mere faute de frappe. The question is whether the statement was in context. Art’s quotation took it well out of context. Anyone interested should read the exchange for themselves.
Secondly, one can find enough MacDonald right here on the Web to call him the anti-Semite that he is. I don’t have to read a lot more of him to draw the logical inferences from his on-line comments. Art might make the claim that I need to read David Duke’s latest book before I can say anything about his politics. Not so, to that hypothetical, and not so to my views of MacDonald.
Here are some choice extracts from “Stalin’s Willing Executioners,” for example, which appeared in the white supremacist journal The Occidental Quarterly :
“[T]he Holocaust was not emphasized as a cultural icon until the late 1960s and early 1970s, when images of the Holocaust were deployed on a large scale in popular culture by Jewish activists specifically to rally support for Israel in the context of its wars of 1967 and 1973.”
I don’t deny that the Holocaust has figured hugely in apologies for Israel, but I don’t think we can draw the inference that images of the Holocaust are solely the propaganda of “Jewish activists.” It was a traumatic historical event, one which a number of people have attempted to deny ever happened. It has its historical lessons for all of us. But in any case, it’s that kind of over-statement that casts doubt on MacDonald’s academic integrity.
“Attraction to charismatic leaders is a fundamental feature of
Jewish social organization—apparent as much among religious fundamentalists as among Jewish political radicals or elite Jewish intellectuals.)”
Unlike the attraction to charismatic leaders that we note in, say, Germany or various locales in South America? Is Olmert a charismatic leader, by the way? Was Golda Meir? Come on.
“Slezkine emphasizes the Jewish role in institutionalizing the
therapeutic state, but sees it as completely benign, rather than an aspect of the “culture of critique” that undermined the ethnic identities of white Americans: “By bringing Freudianism to America and by adopting it, briefly, as a salvation religion, [Jews] made themselves more American while making America more therapeutic” (p. 319). There is little discussion of the main anti-nativist intellectual movements, all of which were dominated by ethnically conscious Jews: Boasian anthropology, Horace Kallen and the development of the theory of America as a “proposition nation,” and the Frankfurt School which combined psychoanalysis and Marxism into a devastating weapon against the ethnic consciousness of white Americans. Nor does he discuss the role of Jewish activist organizations in altering the ethnic balance of the United States by promoting large-scale immigration from around the world.”
The references here to “white Americans” speak for themselves, as well as the paranoia, seen in far-right circles, that immigration is a Jewish plot to destroy the white “race.”
“Jewish involvement in the horrors of Communism was also an important sentiment in Hitler’s desire to destroy the USSR and in the anti-Jewish actions of the German National Socialist government. Jews and Jewish organizations were also important forces in inducing the Western democracies to side with Stalin rather than Hitler in World War II.”
Read this one carefully. MacDonald is saying that Hitler was right. He is also pushing the Fascist canard that the leaders of the Allies were pushed into war by the Joooze.
“The critical Jewish role in Communism has been sanitized, while
Jewish victimization by the Nazis has achieved the status of a moral touchstone and is a prime weapon in the push for massive non-European immigration, multiculturalism, and advancing other Jewish causes.”
Good grief.
“And Jewish hostility toward the European derived people and culture of the United States has been a consistent feature of Jewish political behavior and attitudes throughout the twentieth century. In the present, this normative Jewish hostility toward the traditional population and culture of the United States remains a potent motivator of Jewish involvement in the transformation of the U.S. into a non-European society. Given this record of Jews as a hostile but very successful elite, I doubt that the continued demographic and cultural dominance of Western European peoples
will be retained either in Europe or the United States and other Western societies without a decline in Jewish influence.”
Through a Final Solution, perhaps?
Art wants me to read yet more of this racist crap that he so enjoys wallowing in himself. No thank you. Robert, this fellow’s presence here is costing you points. I don’t ban people easily at my place, but this fellow would be out of there in a New York minute, if you’ll pardon the obvious philosemitic reference.
Fuck, Robert, did you really write this?
Tell me this was an impostor. Please.
That’s despicable Robert. I can’t believe you’d say something like that.
Oh well, I simply don’t care about anti-semitism any longer. I’ve written several Jewish lobby groups asking them to address the topic of how conservatives and rightwing liberals are falsely accusing people of being anti-semitic simply for political purposes and not a single one even bothered to respond. And I’m not the only one in the anti-racism movement that feels that way.
I stopped reading your embarrassingly self-serving and dishonest post right here.
You are beneath contempt.
And, unfortunately, no genius.
You have nothing to teach anyone here about honesty, Art. Peddle your neo-Nazism somewhere else.
Tell me this was an impostor. Please.
None of the Jewish organziations–B’Nai Brith, the ADL, the CJC–have ever come to the defense of leftwing socialists who’ve stood up to the neo-nazis in defense of them and have since been tarred as anti-semitic. In short Dawg, when they came for us the Jews didn’t care.
That’s a spotlight down into your soul, now isn’t it, Doc? Whew! Ugly hole.
Unable to contest this exchange of ideas on the basis of ideas, you resort to calling me names in the hope I’ll be cowed into embarrassed silence. Only a thug disguised as a thinker could ever hope for such a thing. And that’s no one I permit in my world.
I don’t want to live in a world created from the debris of what been destroyed, then left with people like you, who sully their opponents, who abstain from dealing with the issues to focus on the peripheral, who dishonestly use racism as a bludgeon to crush the thinking skulls of their opponents, telling me what I’m allowed to discuss, or with who - telling us all what we’re permitted to read, or what can be published and by whom. What’s worth living about a life like that?
Your shameful exhibition here today should prove to be an eye opener for some. I thank you for reinforcing the original point that I made in my very first post on this thread,
“I await the deluge…of ignorance, cowardly silence and belligerent, up-is-down racism, while I earnestly and honestly hope for enlightenment…”
Alas, enlightenment has not been forthcoming. I got you instead.
Robert, it just bothers me tremedously when the very idea of persecuting people is floated. It’s not funny. I relish the opportunity to call Kate McMillan a yeasty, weeping cunt, but I would be the first to defend her civil liberties.
As far as Jewish organisations are concerned? Well…in the words of that great moral paragon, Judith Miller…”There’s no business like Shoah business.”
Some people are going to be awfully surprised to find out that there is, in fact, a Hell.
Art’s defensive rants are not worth responding to. He stands exposed here for all to see.
But Robert, there’s a difference between a few professional lobby groups and “the Jews.” I think you should take a couple of deep breaths and retract your statement. It was simply disgusting.
Yawn. (Didn’t I just say this about you, only better?)
Send in the sweepers to pick this stiffened, Intellectual carcass up, will you, Robert? When left out, exposed to the elements like this one is, they start to smell and become the focus of small, starving, carnivorus animals, especially at this time of the year, when so much of their natural habitat is covered in snow.
(This is fun! Your turn Madd Dawg…)
It’s not my fault if you read anything more than indifference in my comment, Dawg.
Send in the sweepers to pick this stiffened, Intellectual carcass up, will you, Robert?
Sorry Art, but Dawg is right and you need to start taking your comments about Jews to your own blog from now on.
Noted
I go away for a few days and all hell breaks loose! WTF?
When next they come for the Jews I doubt I’ll even be able to muster up a “what a shame”.
Robert, in all the time I’ve commented under you and then blogged under you, I always defended you tirelessly against anyone who would call you an anti-semite in my presence. And then you say something like this.
I don’t know what to say. I hope you only said it in anger and didn’t really mean it. Nonetheless, you’ve just given your enemies more than enough rope to hang you with.
Arthur, I wholeheartedly agree with Robert when he says to take this elsewhere.
Robert,
Yes, your statement was a tad shocking, but it was also honest. I, too, as I know from talking with many others, have grown nauseous with the rhetoric expounded by B’nai ‘Brinth, the JDL, the ADL, etc.
When any group has been given so much understanding and support, and then we see them turn around and do the same things to others, while effectively saying ‘You cannot be critical of us because we suffered the Holocaust!’ the emotional response is one of simple neutral uncaring, not anything less than the very attitude of those screaming ‘Respect us no matter what we do!’ People simply get to the point they say ‘You are your own worst enemy…enjoy what you have earned!’
In short, I think you have been honest, perhaps, no definitely not Politically Correct, but then PC has been the very tool the aforementioned groups have used to BS the public for way too long.
A horse is a horse, a mule is a mule, and a jackass is a jackass…all closely related, but still different. The zealots of Zioniism have brought about their own undoing. Anyone who has ever been insulting treated by one who acts like they are superior and you are a mere gentile scum can relate. What they sow they shall reap…Gee, who said that, eh?
So, while I have remained a reader, rather than a commentor, realting to art and Roberts ‘J’ discussion on this topic, I now speak!
Bill, there is a huge difference between not respecting Zionists and not caring if people start persecuting Jewish people again.
Not all Jewish people are Zionists, and not all Zionists are Jewish.
It would be wise to remember that.
Pal,
I am well aware not all Jewish people are Zionists, however, how many times do you read or hear them denouncing the Zionists? Therein, lies the problem. Take any group and you see the same thing…people will associate the worst actions of a small minority of members with the entire group, unless the group rises up to silence them.
I do not know what actually experience you have had with the subject, i.e., actually dealing with such people in real life, but mine is pretty extensive. I approach the subject from a reality basis, not a philosophical one.
When you say “Not all Jewish people are Zionists, and not all Zionists are Jewish.” I would like a little explaination on the latter part of that claim? Perhaps you are referring to the Christians who support Zionism? With that I agree!
Pal,
I am well aware not all Jewish people are Zionists, however, how many times do you read or hear them denouncing the Zionists? Therein, lies the problem. Take any group and you see the same thing…people will associate the worst actions of a small minority of members with the entire group, unless the group rises up to silence them.
Yes, and that’s a terrible thing to do. I know quite a few people who are Jewish and don’t care very much for the Zionist movement, just as I know a large amount of Muslims who don’t care for extremists.
But tarring all Jews with the same brush is just as wrong as tarring all Muslims with the same brush. We have no right as progressives to do so.
Pal,
My age has taught me several important realities. First, our world is seldom fair, and the people in it simply have their own load to carry, they care, but also know where their responsibility begins and ends. When members of a group promote a viewpoint then it is their responsibility to look at how their statements will affect innocents. They seldom do. Just look at the comments on almost every politically based blog.
I know you are somewhat of a young idealist, and that is good, but reality remains reality as to human nature. At some point people just say ‘Enough! I am removing myself from the fray!’
I think that is what Robert really was saying, and so am I. I also learned playing Don Quioxte can be rather unrealistic. Sixty years of living gives such lessons.
I do think that when, and if, the ADL, JDL, BB, and Israel as a nation admit they have erred and change their ways, then people will view them with more compassion. Same thing has happened to the U.S., Iraq, and other never ending troublesome groups.
Consider how much compassionate sympathy the Hell’s Angels or Banditos get? Not much I am sure, and none from me! Their actions do not warrant compassionate caring. Same rule applies to any group or person.
So, that is all I really wanted to say, and have. So, I will not be regurgitating the issue again.
Have a nice day ma ami!
Fine, so long as you’re criticizing the actions of the organizations.
Reality check, please!
Here’s a short little personal history lesson in THIS country in my family’s lifetime: My grandmother lost 13 brothers and sisters to the holocaust. My great-uncle, who was subject to the strict quota system that kept jewish students largely out of universities HERE, still managed to get in and became one of the first jews to graduate McGill with an engineering degree. He went on to paint signs for a living, because no one would hire a jew, even with a degree in radio engineering from McGill.
Not one of the jews I grew up with here in Montreal was unaffected by the Holocaust. One of my elementary school teachers was branded in the concentration camps. All of our grandparents or parents bore physical or psychological scars. No family I know of was without at least one lost relative, more often than not, many. Some grew up with childhood memories of Auschwitz and other concentration camps, and resettled anywhere they could to start a new life and contribute to a society that would never allow these atrocities again, or so they thought….
How, exactly, were we controlling everything then?! We certainly weren’t controlling immigration policy, or the admissions boards of universities, or private clubs, or boards of listed companies, or parliament, or the senate, or the supreme court!
The rants and diatribes on this site (and god knows, so many others), by citizens of this country are, frankly, the BEST reasons for a Jewish state, warts and all (and of course there are many warts). Can you really blame Jews for wanting a homeland of their own, where they are in control of their own destiny, when antisemitism is so pervasive and invidious, even in a supposedly enlightened, multicultural and permissive society as Canada?
whaaaaa