TIME TO SUE

After I wrote my now infamous “Fuck the Jews” post–a post that was not anti-semitic but a discussion on anti-semitism–it became the basis for a whisper campaign by the right accusing me of being anti-semitic; a campaign I might add that made eventually ended up on the website of a national newspaper when the Globe and Mail’s Dan Cook blogged about it.

Well history is repeating itself as I’m now receiving vile hatemail accusing me of threatening Steve Janke’s children or worse in response to this post on his blog which is based on a lie(1). And this new libelous smear is being spread by rightwing commenters on other blogs in what has become a familiar pattern.

I confronted Janke via email with what was going on and asked him to remove the posts so as to avoid giving this new whisper campaign a foundation on which to grow. Not surprisingly he refused, repeated the specious accusation and then claimed it’s my fault for not dealing with his smear that’s based on a lie.

So I’ve collected up all the relevant material and emailed it to my lawyer with the intention of initiating legal proceedings against Steve Janke and anyone else who propagates this new smear.

(1) Janke’s accusation is based on the lie that Deborah Frischer threatened Jeff Goldstein’s child. She did not in fact, utter any threat.

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  1. Ti-Guy said,

    This seems coordinated. Janke writes that post, Kate shows up at Prog-Blogs and Richard Evans went gunning for me yesterday and today (despite, as far as I know, not having anything to do with him since January).

    I think the proto-fascists have adopted the tactic we’re seeing quite bit in the States and which the Deb Frisch/Count Cockula affaire illustrated so well this weekend….bloggity-blah being re-directed into material threats of actual people. That’s what the rethuglicans do, after all, and the CPC supporters are following the script.

    Janke’s smear implied that you posed a material threat to his child. That’s a complete fabrication.

  2. Anon said,

    If she never threatened anyone, why did you yourself call her comments towards the tyke “death threats”?

  3. Next time don’t try and defend freaks that post fucking shit like this…

    ” Ooh. Two year old boy. Sounds hot. You live in Colorado, I see. Hope no one Jon-Benets your baby.

    Oh wait, I forgot Ti-Guy’s your personal minion.
    Nevermind…

  4. Ti-Guy said,

    Swarm!!! Hey, proto-fascists, you’re making Robert’s case stronger.

  5. If she never threatened anyone, why did you yourself call her comments towards the tyke “death threats”?

    Goldstein’s site was down when I wrote the comment and I’d only read a partial accounting of what Deborah had said. I erroneously gave her accusers the benefit of the doubt at the time. When Jeff’s site came back up I was able to read all her comments and determine no actual threat was made.

  6. Anon said,

    Goldstein’s site was down when I wrote the comment and I’d only read a partial accounting of what Deborah had said. I erroneously gave her accusers the benefit of the doubt at the time. When Jeff’s site came back up I was able to read all her comments and determine no actual threat was made.

    See, now, there’s a problem with that on 2 seperate levels;

    1. You just admitted that you comment on issues without having all the facts.

    and

    2. You were still giving her support for threats (real or perceived) to a small child. That hasn’t changed. Only your perception of her remarks has changed.

    You guys sure aren’t doing much to help your cases…

  7. Ti-Guy said,

    Yeah, well…Anon (Richard?). Your understanding of libel and slander is a bit weak. Robert’s misunderstanding of the exact nature of Deb Frisch’s comments and her comments themselves have no bearing on Janke’s insinuation that Robert constituted a material threat to Janke’s children (which is what he more than implied.) You’re just trying to imply that someone else:

    a) supported Deb Frisch’s comments
    b) supported Deb Frisch’s criminal motivations (child abuse) which I don’t even believe she was expressing, quite frankly. I think she was (legitimately) pissed off by Count Cockula. Then again, she dug her own grave with that. But, she already resigned.

    It’s “Fuck the Jews” all over again. Proto-fascists swarming and trying to turn innuendo and smear into reality.

  8. arthurdecco said,

    Can I contribute to the cause, Robert?

    I read his posts. He’s mental. He’s evil. He’s unprincipled. He needs a swift legal kick in the ass to stop the hordes from following in his teensy tiny footsteps.

  9. Ti-Guy said,

    Yeah, I’ll donate too.

  10. Calling somone an anti-semite is also grounds for libel. So you should gather any information on that too. David Nobel at york university is doing quite well with his libel case against the university for this.

  11. Anon said,

    So what you’re saying thai-guy is that if you publicly supported pedophilia, parents should implicently trust you with their children?

    You see, Robert publicly supported someone who threatens children. Hence, Robert looses the trust of parents…

  12. “I erroneously gave her accusers the benefit of the doubt at the time.”
    I guess that’s an apology, if even a leftist one.
    Took long enough.

    I’d sue Ti-guy, expect I spent all of my money on a morgage…

    Can I contribute to the cause, Robert?
    50 bucks is only going to contribute 4 minutes to his legal case dude…

  13. MWW said,

    Put up a donation button Robert. I’ll kick in some money.

  14. wonderdog said,

    It was only a matter of time before someone nailed Janke for libel. It’s his specialty. Every couple of weeks he posts something that’s a slam-dunk, indefensible libel.

    Goodwin Ginger, I’ve always said Robert should have got a lawyer on the “Fuck the Jews” thing. One of the chief architects of the smear campaign, which was far from restricted to conservatives, was good old Warren Kinsella. When it hit the Globe & Mail, connected to Robert’s name, it was pretty clearly time to take action.

  15. Ti-Guy said,

    I’d sue Ti-guy, expect I spent all of my money on a morgage…

    What?

    Jesus, I’ve never thought about suing you. I just think you need help.

    …and thanks for the swarming at Richard’s, Knight; you really rise to the occasion when you think someone’s going to get nailed, eh?

    My…How very brave. Just like a participant in a pogrom.

  16. Ti-Guy said,

    Every couple of weeks he posts something that’s a slam-dunk, indefensible libel.

    I rarely read his blog, but every time I did, I saw something at least vaguely libelous.

    Yeah, it’s about time.

  17. MWW said,

    I wonder if it’s possible for people who have been libeled on Janke’s blog to make a group action against him… or hell, since these posts are aggregated and then propogated via the BTs “media outlet” (their description of what the BTs are, not mine) — that *they* could be sued.

    Just a thought. For anybody who has been libel-swarmed.

  18. JDot said,

    You internet people are way to sensitive. Wow, going to sue, that is the funniest shit.

    Are you guys American?

    “Sensitive thugs/need hugs” - Jay-Z

  19. Ti-Guy said,

    Pay attention, JDot. A Jewish family in Indian River, Delaware was forced to relocate when a rightwing Christian organisation published their personal information on the Internet and a woman this weekend resigned from her job because a Klonopin-addicted moron who routinely threatens sexual abuse with his cock and has a history of Internet harrassment organised a swarming with his proto-fascist buddies…this same moron has posted at AGWN, by the way.

    …Richard Evans called Deb Frisch a lesbian there, by the way.

  20. I’ve always said Robert should have got a lawyer on the “Fuck the Jews” thing.
    That could have been one fuck of a LOONleftIC media circus, eh…
    Go back to you censorblog wonderbitch.

  21. Ti-Guy said,

    Time for Knight to go.

  22. Proud K-W Conservative said,

    This is hilarious shit…
    you people have got to get a life

    McClelland…you reap what you sow
    and you sow a lot of shit

  23. Ti-Guy said,

    Another Conservative swarmer.

  24. Peter said,

    “So what you’re saying thai-guy is that if you publicly supported pedophilia, parents should implicently trust you with their children?”

    How stupid.

    But the idea of suing Janke for his comments ain’t so bright either. Here’s a clue: Lawyers are expensive.

    I might have pursued the anti-semitism thing if I were you. But this?

  25. Thrteen said,

    It’s not rational. Unlike McClelland, I know when I’m being driven by emotions. I know in my mind that McClelland is no threat to her, and I’m sure he is no threat to anyone’s children.

    Still, to provide moral support someone like Frisch…that takes a special kind of weird.

    hmmm…. Janke states you are not a threat and you accuse him of libel. Since it is safe to say that you are not taking exception to his defense of you it must be the special kind of weird comment. Save your pennies. It will be rather hard to prove libel considering the fair comment doctrine.

  26. Ti-Guy said,

    Another conservative swarmer who thinks he knows the law. Robert hasn’t stated what he’s suing Janke for and “fair comment’” is determined through litigation. It’s a tort, remember.

    Why are you protecting Janke?

  27. Joshmanicus said,

    I’m honestly speechless. I can’t believe this has come to that. I guess it was really only a matter of time given how aggressive all of you guys are to each other.

  28. Darren said,

    And speaking of libel…

    “…and a woman this weekend resigned from her job because a Klonopin-addicted moron who routinely threatens sexual abuse with his cock and has a history of Internet harrassment organised a swarming with his proto-fascist buddies…this same moron has posted at AGWN, by the way.”

  29. Ti-Guy said,

    *sign* Another conservative swarmer by the name of Darren.

    The Konopin-addicted moron can come and get me, Darren. He lives in Colorado (I think) and I live in Canada.

    He writes extensively about his Klonopin prescription and Count Cockula’s threats of sexual abuse with his cock is richly (and hilariously) documented here.

    This is someone who Janke didn’t seem to mind commenting on his blog, by the way. I guess Steve doesn’t let his children read his blog, since Goldstein’s mere presence would render it X-Rated.

  30. Anon said,

    …Richard Evans called Deb Frisch a lesbian there, by the way.

    And Richard was accurate. She’s a carpet muncher.

  31. Ti-Guy said,

    Did I say Richard was wrong?

    You’re out of your league, Anon. Nice bigotry, by the way.

  32. fsdfdf said,

    Blah blah blah

  33. Anon said,

    Did I say Richard was wrong?

    You wouldn’t bring it up if you had thought he was correct…

  34. you're all a joke said,

    this is hilarious. Ti-guy, you’re comming off a little aggressive, no better than the so-called swarmers. Uh oh, better watch what I say around here ,libel and all.

  35. Ti-Guy said,

    You wouldn’t bring it up if you had thought he was correct…

    Really? How do you know that? I was just pointing out that Richard Evans is a homophobe. He’s gone on record to state that homosexuality should be “re-stigmatised.”

    Ti-guy, you’re comming off a little aggressive, no better than the so-called swarmers. Uh oh, better watch what I say around here ,libel and all.

    No way. I’m having fun. When proto-fascists swarm, it’s like shooting fish in a barrel.

    ….yuck. Mixed metaphor.

  36. Shaken said,

    Well, now that the public announcement of the decision to sue has been made, I anticipate that there will be a rather substantial loss of credibility if there is no follow through.

    I see no basis for succeeding in a lawsuit against Angry.

    The choices look grim: (a) proceed with a specious lawsuit and lose, or (b) back down and eat a blogosphere-sized chunk of crow pie. Lose or lose.

    Deftly done!

  37. Ti-Guy said,

    How pretentious and vapid. You don’t care about “credibility.” You despise non-conservatives.

    You’re just swarming.

  38. Janke’s suggestion that you are somehow a threat to his kids crosses the line. He should retract it. While the comment was meant in a tongue in cheek sort of way, he ought to know that such accusations quickly take on a life of their own on the Internet.

    Your defense of Frish is somewhat more baffling. While I disagree with the emails sent to her employer, I hardly sympathize with her. Her comments were vile and repugnent enough (not to mention graphic and specific enough) that she made her own mess.

  39. Shaken said,

    Quelle surprise… argumentum ad hominem from Ti-Guy.

  40. Your defense of Frish……never happened except in the delusional minds of my detractors. I only made two points. That there was an obvious double standard to comments of that nature depending on who makes them and that what she said didn’t warrent quiting her job.

  41. Paladiea said,

    Hmm I missed the flame war…

  42. Ti-Guy said,

    Quelle surprise… argumentum ad hominem from Ti-Guy.

    How pretentious. Ad hominem means name calling based on personal characteristics. I’m being descriptive. “Deftly done” is supremely pretentious and your whole comment was vapid. And you’re just here because you’re swarming. And I’m sure you despise non-conservatives. Your prose is dripping with contempt and scorn.

  43. Paladiea said,

    Whoops looks like i didn’t. Where do I enlist?

  44. Ti-Guy said,

    Yeah, I think it might turn into an actual flame war. The hissy, haughty and pretentious conservatives like (get this) “Shaken” (as in Maritni, I should imagine) are showing up.

  45. Paladiea said,

    I’ve dealt with Shaken before, he can be cool when he wants to be… Just not right now… *narrows eyes*

  46. Ti-Guy said,

    Oh, well…I defer to you on that, Paladeia. I don’t know who he is.

  47. Shaken said,

    Whatever adornments there be upon the messenger, the content of the message does not change. Or does it, Ti-Guy?

  48. Paladiea said,

    Shaken, what exactly are you trying to express here? I haven’t seen you make a point yet.

    How uncharacteristic of you. Or perhaps you’re slipping in your senescence?

  49. Ti-Guy said,

    Whatever adornments there be upon the messenger, the content of the message does not change.

    *barf*. You’re on your own, Paladiea.

  50. Paladiea said,

    “*barf*. You’re on your own, Paladiea”

    But it’s so rare to have a conservative speak eloquently! It’s certainly refreshing after Jeff’s “duh duh women are teh stupid!” or KotR in general.

    And let’s not even mention Richard Evans…

  51. Peter said,

    Everything RR said in #38.

  52. gerry said,

    Everyone seems so busy trying to come up with the snappy humiliating comeback, that you all seem like a bunch of idiots. The venom here is incredible yet fascinating. None of you give a shit about what was said. You all just want to crap on each other, idealistically hoping that something you say will have a profound effect on the other, maybe even change their minds.
    Whatever the professor did resulted in her dismissal, something which she undoubtedly, in hindsight, wishes that she had never gotten into that verbal argument in the first place.
    To repeat you are all rpobably intelligent people but you come across as being stupid and petty, too caught up in proving the other wrong.
    Please get a life and/or debate more serious issues .

  53. Please get a life and/or debate more serious issues .

    There are plenty of serious issues in other posts on this blog so why have you chosen to comment in this one instead of any of them?

  54. macadavy said,

    There’s no doubt that remarks that could be construed as libelous are sometimes published in the heat of a flame war. What kind of chilling effect on blogging would follow if we start sueing each other? I’ve seen all kinds of incredible nonsense on the web and keep my salt shaker handy at all times. I’m not a lawyer, Robert, so my non-legal advice is: give as good as you get, then get over it! You’ve got a great blog, and if its sometimes a lightening rod ’cause you really nail someone’s pet piece of bullshit, so be it - keep on keepin’ on!
    Where I draw the line is the kind of hate speech seen far too often on certain right-wing blogs which shall remain nameless, (and probably don’t need to be named in this forum), _that’s_ criminal behavior in this country (thank the goddess!) and should be prosecuted accordingly.

  55. carole said,

    I can hardly stop laughing at the pathetic
    writing on this blog.
    52 is right, none of you have any idea of
    what is said by you and some of the commentors on this site.
    I have never seen such swearing and bad
    english anywhere else on the internet, but
    to liberals that is the usual as they cannot
    argue without swearing like pigs.

  56. Ti-Guy said,

    Too bad. If you don’t like it, don’t read it.

  57. Jan Schaafsma said,

    Hey RM;

    I guess it’s true. You do reap what you sow.

    Enjoy the letters. I’m sure there will be many more coming to you everytime unreasonable hate spews from your obviously endless wellspring.

  58. arthurdecco said,

    Gee, I’m chastised now, carole…

    Done yet? Because it’s time for you to fuck off back to Katie Dearest, or LGF or whatever other rock you crawled out from under.

    (Who shoved the hose in the hole and flooded out all the cockroaches - was that you, Robert?

  59. Ti-Guy said,

    I love great writing from flying monkeys. Especially writing like this:

    As a fellow prisoner shackled to this spinning rock by the uncontrollable forces of gravity, I offer this forum to elevate ourselves beyond the everyday confines of reality. A place to exercise our ideas, air our differences and imagine a place where everyone is more interested in the larger scheme of things.

    *snick*

  60. Ti-Guy said,

    Anyway, to make sure the swarming righties get something while they’re here, here’s a reading list of the works Roger Griffen, an English political theorist at Oxford Brookes University:

    - The Nature of Fascism (St. Martin’s Press, 1991 Routledge, 1993)
    - Fascism (Oxford Readers) Oxford University Press, 1995.
    - Fascism: Critical Concepts in Political Science. Routledge, 2004.
    - International Fascism. Eward Arnold, 1998.
    - Fascism, Totalitarianism, and Political Religion Routledge, 2006.

    The last one is particularly relevant with regard to the rise of Christian fundamentalism in North America.

  61. Boomer said,

    Tell the people in Mumbai it’s the Christians you are out to get them , jerkoff.

  62. Thrteen said,

    Another conservative swarmer who thinks he knows the law. Robert hasn’t stated what he’s suing Janke for and “fair comment’” is determined through litigation. It’s a tort, remember.

    He’d only be able to claim libel based on Janke’s comments, not for any emails that his supporters may have sent. What does that leave us with??? Comments that Robert is not a threat to anyone’s children. The description of supporting Frisch’s comments as taking a special kind of weird. A warning to stay away from Janke and his children.

    I would hardly call Janke’s defense of Robert libelous. That leaves us with two other comments. The special kind of weird would be easily defensible given fair comment. Or do you think a reasonable person would not reach that same conclusion of someone defending another who wished harm on a woman and small child? Ah, the warning. Did Janke imply that Robert was a threat even after stating explicitly that he wasn’t?

    Robert has defended Frisch based on what she explicitly said, ignoring what may have been implied. To attack Janke now strikes me as hypocritical. Regardless, if it is reasonable to feel that it takes a special kind of weird to defend Frisch’s comments then a warning to stay away from his children is fair game. It was some of his readers who ignored what Janke had actually written about Robert not being a threat not Janke. Besides… Robert himself may have scuttled any attempt at a lawsuit by himself implying that he is indeed a threat, to Janke if not his family…

    Your flying monkeys are now sending me hatemail accusing me of threatening your children. If I get one more you and I are going to be meeting face to face to discuss this matter.

  63. Anon said,

    Great references thai-guy. Those books contain all of the progressive tactics and talking points… SWEET!

  64. Ti-Guy said,

    Great references thai-guy. Those books contain all of the progressive tactics and talking points… SWEET!

    No, no…you’re supposed to read them….R-E-A…oh, never mind. Is there a local library near you that offers a “Tales for Tots” reading programme? We should probably start there.

    It’s pathetic to watch flying monkeys like “Thrteen” not make any arguments but repeat the same baseless smear and unproven assertions over and over again.

    This is why I despise rightwingers and why I (and very many other people) believe they are nascient fascists. They’re born liars. I don’t even think they know they’re lying, and they mobilise to confirm each other’s dim view of the world and of people who don’t think like them.

    And they swarm….or goosestep in formation, as it were…

  65. MWW said,

    From “The Love Song Of J Edgar Goldstein”

    “And I have spawned the many wingnuts, spawned them all—
    Guys that are cosseted and white, robust
    [But in the lamplight, flecked with Cheeto dust!]
    Is it socialists’ finesse
    That makes their brains fluoresce?
    Guys that lie around a table, or brag about a brawl.
    And should I then presume?
    And how should I begin?

    Shall I say, I have surfed at dawn through quiet blogs
    And watched the smoke that rises from the ears
    Of lonely men in bathrobes, posting using Windows?…

    For I have blogged them all already, blogged them all:—
    Have dozed the evenings, mornings, afternoons,
    I have blogged my life while watching Looney Tunes;
    I know coyotes dying with a dying fall
    Beneath the beep from a roadrunner zoom.
    Earth-shattering “kaboom.”

    http://somenamedia.blogspot.com/2006/07/this-is-masterpiece.html

  66. Thrteen said,

    It’s pathetic to watch flying monkeys like “Thrteen” not make any arguments but repeat the same baseless smear and unproven assertions over and over again.

    Sorry, Ti-Guy, but I think you’re talking about yourself here. It would be kind of hard to talk about the merits of a potential libel lawsuit without talking about the “baseless smear and unproven assertions.” I’d simply be reduced to ignoring your points and the comments section would quickly degenrate into a childish “yes, you are” “no, you aren’t” schoolground arguement.

    The closest you’ve come to actually discussing the merits of Robert’s claim is to assert that Janke’s smear implied that you posed a material threat to his child. That’s a complete fabrication. Janke did nothing of the sort. That is merely your inference. A warning to stay away is a smear? What he did was explicitly state that Robert was not a threat.

  67. Nomennovum said,

    Thrteen,

    We all should realize that Ti-Guy is *always* talking about himself when he thinks he is talking about us.

    It’s really a quite extraordinary thing.

  68. sooey said,

    the nasty garbage posted about sooey on the internet says everything one needs to know about the people posting it and nothing about me. i ignore it.

  69. Dante said,

    After I wrote my now infamous “Fuck the Jews” post–a post that was not anti-semitic

    Uh….

  70. Paladiea said,

    Uh….

    Maybe you should… I don’t know… READ the article before making a comment.

  71. Ti-Guy said,

    The closest you’ve come to actually discussing the merits of Robert’s claim is to assert that Janke’s smear implied that you posed a material threat to his child. That’s a complete fabrication. Janke did nothing of the sort.

    Says you. It’s ridiculous to criticise someone for implying something based on one interpretation and then assert that just another interpretation is somehow “correct.”

    I think my point here is that you flying monkeys are wasting your time. Nothing will be settled here, and in the meantime, you’re just swarming and being long-winded and trollish.

  72. spek said,

    I think Steve Janke’s deliberate and malicious out-of-context libel of Robert should be easy to prove in court, if it comes to that. Janke might come back with some kind of chewbacca defense… LOL… but I think thats the best the coward could do. Bring on the donation button. :)

    P.S. - Hope your lawyer is a vicious prick, Robert. This could be fun.

  73. Elvis said,

    The biggest problem with people on the left is that when they think they’re thinking, they’re really not…

  74. Anonymous said,

    I suppose you’re considered a profound ‘thinker’ in right-wing circles, Elvis.

  75. spek said,

    Oops, that was me. Where is my mind?

  76. Elvis said,

    Nope, I’m just some fat has-been singer…

  77. spek said,

    Nope, I’m just some fat has-been singer…

    Works for me.

  78. Elvis said,

    Wanna peanutbutter ‘n nanna sandwich?

  79. Ti-Guy said,

    Rubert?

  80. Thrteen said,

    Ah yes, says you, the other classic rejoinder of eight year olds everywhere. allow me to save you the bother of a reply by simply acknowledging now the obvious superiority of I know you are but what am I . Now run along before you miss Dora and let the adults talk amongst themselves.

    Spek:

    Perhaps you can point me to Janke’s “deliberate and malicious out-of-context libel of Robert” because I’m not seeing it. I’ve already addressed my point above so will not rehash it. The only one who has even come close to providing a rational basis for a claim of libel is Robert himself when he posted “Your defense of Frish……never happened except in the delusional minds of my detractors. I only made two points. That there was an obvious double standard to comments of that nature depending on who makes them and that what she said didn’t warrent quiting her job.” Of course the assertion that he has defended Frish is not the basis for his claim of libel but that he has been accused of threatening Janke’s children. A claim that Janke has never made. The rest of Robert’s supporters have merely repeated the claim of libel while offering nothing to support it.

  81. sooey said,

    it’s quite hilarious in these cases to read how many times the offended party repeats the offending post on the internet.

  82. Ti-Guy said,

    Ah yes, says you, the other classic rejoinder of eight year olds everywhere. allow me to save you the bother of a reply by simply acknowledging now the obvious superiority of I know you are but what am I . Now run along before you miss Dora and let the adults talk amongst themselves.

    Jesus, can’t you flying monkeys come up with an original (as well as briefer and less pretentious) rejoinder at least once in your f*cking lives?

    …note treatment of profanity in consideration of delicate and virginal winged primate ears.

  83. A said,

    LOL… looks like if you go up against Janke, you’ll be facing Warren!

    http://www.stevejanke.com/archives/185863.php

  84. spek said,

    From the above link:

    Goldstein’s site was down when I wrote the comment and I’d only read a partial accounting of what Deborah had said. I erroneously gave her accusers the benefit of the doubt at the time. When Jeff’s site came back up I was able to read all her comments and determine no actual threat was made.
    Robert McClelland, July 12th, 2006 at 7:47 pm

    So you only supported her death threats when you thought they were death threats? And that changes things…how?

    Oh man, what a moron.

  85. Ti-Guy said,

    LOL… looks like if you go up against Janke, you’ll be facing Warren!

    Well, times are tough for ol’ Warsy; he’s got to get attention somewhere.

  86. arthurdecco said,

    Elvis Said: “The biggest problem with people on the left is that when they think they’re thinking, they’re really not…”

    Why Elvis, dearie, …that was sooooo …I dunno… profound!

    btw, have you learned to do up your own laces yet, or is Mommy still doing it for you, sweetiekins?

  87. Elvis said,

    Yeah Artie, I’ve got those bases covered and you still owe Peter an apology… Remember when you gave him crap after he gave you the gears for towing the party line and then you got your ass handed to you by someone who provided the proof?

    I don’t think I’m the one that needs help.

  88. Paladiea said,

    Remember when you gave him crap after he gave you the gears for towing the party line and then you got your ass handed to you by someone who provided the proof?

    Are you still going on about that? Didn’t I prove you wrong?

    Typical right winger, goes back to the rationale that fell apart earlier.

  89. MWW said,

    Hey — remember, this is ALL about deflection.

    Seriously guys - when was the last time you saw CARB (Crazy Assed Racist B***) show her facce here? Ever?

    But in the face of the burgeoning scandal, - the right-wing attack machine is in full-throttle, (I’m just waiting for Taylor to join in the jihad as well) — their ONLY line of defence is to attack anybody who is doing any signifigant job of publicizing the Convention-Gate and Cheque-Swapping Scandal.

    what’s funny is, that Janke went after Robert on this Frische smear, and kate tried to do it to me, within the same 36 hour period.

    It’s all they have left…

    What really drives them bonkers is NOT this puke-fest back and forth stuff — but hardcore facts about the scandal that they can’t dispute and they desperately want to starve of oxygen by changing the channel.

    So - without further ado..

    http://somenamedia.blogspot.com/2006/07/convention-gate-cpc-officials-caught.html

    “Ok, so two more lies from the Conservative Party have now been exposed. Hard to keep track of them all, as each day passes. But we here at Somena Media aim to please. The first of these two lies being pointed out very starkly with the following post…. Briefly: Yesterday Mike Donison, the Executive Director of the CPC came out swinging against critics demanding that the CPC open up it’s convention books to the CEO of Elections Canada, per his request earlier last month. Mr.Donison claimed, per internal CPC email discussions that indicated there was massive amounts of cheque-swapping going on, via one Linda Toews that she was not an employee of the party and further that he did not know what her status was with the party….” (read more) go forth and aggregate.

  90. Elvis said,

    You’re deluded MWW.

  91. Paladiea said,

    You’re deluded MWW.

    So well researched, and eloquent! Why all of MWW’s painstakingly gathered information just flies away like dust under this weighty argument.

  92. MWW said,

    “You’re deluded MWW” - said a guy calling himself Elvis.

    Mkay.

  93. Elvis said,

    … deluded that you think that there’s some sort of conspiricy designed to deflect attention away from an unconfirmed “donation scandal”. If AGWN was part of said conspiricy, do you really think that he’d be posting on the issue?

    Like I said, you’re deluded…

  94. MWW said,

    After 2 weeks of silence, and 122 news articles about Convention gate, and over 30 about Cheque-Swapping — he had to say something “Elvis”

    BTW — is it true that you are living with Bigfoot and Space Aliens, dude?

  95. Elvis said,

    MWW Says:
    July 14th, 2006 at 1:44 pm | |
    After 2 weeks of silence, and 122 news articles about Convention gate, and over 30 about Cheque-Swapping — he had to say something “Elvis”

    If I remember correctly, the issue was discussed when it first broke, deemed a non-issue and shelved untill more info came about. How does this translate into a conspiricy to distract attention away from your posts? It doesn’t silly.

    BTW — is it true that you are living with Bigfoot and Space Aliens, dude?

    Nope. I’m holed-up in the bowels of Gracelend. Bigfoot’s in BC Canada and Aliens don’t exist…

  96. MWW said,

    It was big news less than 2 days ago.. when it was revealed that the CPC despite their promise to turn over the Convention Books to the CEO of Elections Canada, have not done so, and apparently have no intention of doing so, and claim that they made no promise to do so.

    But I guess you wouldnt know that - since you don’t read much beyond the right-wing noise machine echo-chamber that has declared this to be a “dead-story” and that “nobody cares about it”.

    I hear that the Globe and possibly the National are doing some work on this for next week. So.. ok.. sure, whatever you say about the Non-story dude. Just keep repeating it to yourself. You are whistling past the graveyard boy.

  97. Elvis said,

    So, which was it? 2 days ago or 2 weeks ago as you asserted here:

    MWW Says:
    July 14th, 2006 at 1:44 pm | |
    After 2 weeks of silence, and 122 news articles about Convention gate, and over 30 about Cheque-Swapping — he had to say something “Elvis”

    My assertion stands and attempting to move the goal posts is dishonest of you…

  98. MWW said,

    The original story broke 2 weeks ago - re the Convention Gate… the latest news on this was posted 2 days ago.

    Do try to pay attention.

  99. MWW said,

    Oh, and Richard, now that you’ve outed yourself — you really should just drop the whole Elvis thing.

    It’s not funny anymore…it’s just kind of sad now.

    Really.

  100. Dr.Dawg said,

    untill [sic] more info came about [sic]. How does this translate into a conspiricy [sic]

    You can tell a lion by his paw. Evans, all right.

  101. Elvis said,

    I’m anonymous just like thai-guy…

  102. Anti Socialist Canadian said,

    I hope you do sue Robert, I.’ll even kick in a few bucks. By the time the lawyers are done with you, you won’t even have a shirt on your back. Canadian courts are famous for not awarding much money even in the unlikely chance you do win.

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